Meet the new Boss, Same as the old Boss – part 4

“Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith”

So what’s the big deal about Saturn anyway? It’s just a far off planet that looks cool in pictures, but doesn’t have a direct effect on us Earthlings since we’re so far away. Or does it?

Would you be surprised to find out that there are strong suggestions in symbolic mythology that Saturn was once our sun, before the sun we know of today?

According to researcher David Talbott in his book, The Saturn Myth (1980), the evidence assembled in the following pages indicates that within human memory extraordinary changes in the planetary system occurred: in the earliest age recalled by man the planet Saturn was the most spectacular light in the heavens and its impact on the ancient world overwhelming.” Talbott goes on to state:  “In the earliest age recalled by man the planet Saturn was the dominant celestial body. Ancient races the world over
record that there was once a “Golden Age”—a kingdom of cosmic harmony ruled by a central light god. Numerous sources identify this light god as the planet Saturn”. Talbott states further: “Accounts of Saturn’s appearance suggest that the planet hung ominously close to the earth. In early ritual and astronomy Saturn appears as the “primeval sun,” described as a figure of “terrifying splendor.” Today, Saturn appears as a bare speck
of light following the same visual path as the solar orb. But during the legendary Golden Age, Saturn stood in the north. Legends from every continent depict the primeval sun as an immense, fiery globe at the north celestial pole—the visual pivot of the heavens. Unlike the rising and setting solar orb, the primeval sun remained fixed in one place.”

David Talbott offers a visual concept of the story of our ancient sky in his documentary, Symbols of an Alien Sky 

During the presentation, Talbott offers different symbolic representations of the ancient sky depicted by the ancients. The ancients used graphic representations of what they saw in the sky and how Saturn was a big part of our ancient sky. Consider the following images:



These images also play off of the combination of Saturn, Venus, and Mars that the ancients saw in the sky.

The question arises:

If Saturn was always as inconspicuous as it is at present, what could have caused the races of antiquity, as if by common consent, to give to Saturn the appellative “sun” or “the shining one” ? “The astrologers certainly must have found it increasingly contrary to reason to associate the star that gives us light and life with one of the palest, and the slowest of the planets.” from:

Also, why is the cross cultural iconography ultimately portraying the same event? Surely these culture were independent of each other, thus not influencing each others graphic depictions.

Besides the images in Symbols of an Alien Sky, there are two images that have multicultural usage that are not depicted in the documentary. However these two images have dark occult associations and are not linked by the documentary to Saturn. The images do have associations linked to features of Saturn that were most recently discovered by the NASA’s Cassini probe.

On the north pole of Saturn, this image was taken by Cassini on October 29th, 2006:


A summation of the photo from NASA’s site:

“A bizarre six-sided feature encircling the north pole of Saturn near 78 degrees north latitude has been spied by the visual and infrared mapping spectrometer on NASA’s Cassini spacecraft. This image is one of the first clear images ever taken of the north polar region as seen from a unique polar perspective.”

Bizarre to us in our current time, but not of a different epoch. If you follow the logic that symbols are graphic representations of events that happened before the advent of the written word, then what you are about to see may astound you.

Consider the following image related to north pole of Saturn and the symbol it’s tied to and that symbols adoption across multiple cultures:

Capture saturn

Indian Hexagram with Om India

Happy Diwali Nepal

Capture4 Ethiopia

church73 Italy

The South pole of Saturn also reveals something rather astounding as well.


From: NASA Sees into the Eye of a Monster Storm on Saturn

“NASA’s Cassini spacecraft has seen something never before seen on another planet — a hurricane-like storm at Saturn’s south pole with a well-developed eye, ringed by towering clouds. This giant Saturnian storm is apparently different from hurricanes on Earth because it is locked to the pole and does not drift around.”

There is an image that I believe is associated with the south pole of Saturn:

index eye-of-horus-tri1

Again, going back to how symbols emanate, taken from the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History

Creating paintings and figurines

By 40,000 years ago

By this time, humans were creating two- and three-dimensional images of the world around them. By 17,000 years ago, they had developed all the major representational techniques including painting, drawing, engraving, sculpture, ceramics, and stenciling. Working on stone, ivory, antler, and occasionally clay, they created imaginative and highly complex works of art.

From the book The Symbolic Species: The Co-evolution of Language and the Brain by Terrence Deacon:

“Somehow, despite their cognitive limitations, our ancestors found a way
to create and reproduce a simple system of symbols, and once available,
these symbolic tools quickly became indispensable. This insinuated a novel
mode of information transmission into the evolutionary process for the first
time in the billions of years since living processes became encoded in DNA

I submit to the reader the following evaluation on the information put before you:

  1. The planet of Saturn at one time was indeed a major presence in the sky of Earth.
  2. The symbols that I link to Saturn are representations of what the ancients saw as their way of communicating to future generations.

There is another little tidbit that may confirm the theory about the Saturn sun and that is from Jonathon Swift, author of the classic novel Gulliver’s Travels. Swift wrote an interesting passage in the poem entitled PANEGYRIC ON THE DEAN, IN THE PERSON OF A LADY IN THE NORTH ‘ 1730.

“When Saturn ruled the skies alone,
(That golden age to gold unknown,)
This earthly globe, to thee assign’d,
Received the gifts of all mankind.
Ten thousand altars smoking round,
Were built to thee with offerings crown’d;
And here thy daily votaries placed
Their sacrifice with zeal and haste:
The margin of a purling stream
Sent up to thee a grateful steam;
Though sometimes thou wert pleased to wink,
If Naiads swept them from the brink:
Or where appointing lovers rove,
The shelter of a shady grove;
Or offer’d in some flowery vale,
Were wafted by a gentle gale,
There many a flower abstersive grew,
Thy favourite flowers of yellow hue;
The crocus and the daffodil,
The cowslip soft, and sweet jonquil.
But when at last usurping Jove
Old Saturn from his empire drove,
Then gluttony, with greasy paws
Her napkin pinn’d up to her jaws,”

Maybe you think Swift was just waxing poetic and was rambling on about Saturn, however before you do,  consider the following from:Jonathan Swift and the moons of Mars

“When the two Martian moons, Phobos and Deimos, were eventually found, by Asaph Hall at the US Naval Observatory, their orbits proved to be quite similar to those described in Swift’s novel. Phobos is actually 6,000 km from the surface of Mars and revolves around Mars in 7.7 hours, whereas Swift gave the values 13,600 km and 10 hours, respectively. Deimos averages 20,100 km from Mars and orbits in 30.3 hours; Swift gives 27,200 km and 21.5 hours, respectively.”

Was Swift merely guessing? Lets look at another view of Swift’s proclamations, from The Mysterious Moons of Mars:

“How was Swift able to predict the existence of the moons and their attributes so well? Some have seriously suggested he had psychic powers. More likely, though, Swift may have employed the same logic as the French writer Voltaire did a quarter century later when he also predicted two Martian moons. Voltaire knew that the inner planets, Mercury and Venus had no moons and the outer planets, Jupiter and Saturn each had many. Earth had one. It seemed likely to Voltaire that Mars, that next out from Earth, probably had at least two.

Even if Swift had employed the same logic to figure the number of moons his estimate on the duration of their orbits was still startlingly accurate.”

Swift is certainly an intriguing personage as it relates to Saturn. Perhaps he may be the Immanuel immanuel Velikovsky of his day. There is more to come between the relationship between Jonathon Swift and Saturn.

I’ll leave the reader with this as a preview for the next part;

Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game

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Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss – part3

Sacrifices on the Hill of Saturn

Before we delve into the spiritual aspects of what the Hill of Saturn could mean to the representation of the land that has become known as Washington D.C., we must first gather some historical context of the happenings that occurred in the area known as Capitoline Hill/Hill of Saturn from the beginning to the height and eventual fall of the Roman Empire. After we establish ritualistic events, we can perhaps draw some more parallels between the Roman Empire and the seat of the United States.

Connecting Hill of Saturn to Capitoline Hill

In his book, The Archaeology of Rome – Volume 1, John Henry Parker makes the case for ultimately declaring that the Hill of Saturn became known as Capitoline Hill instead of Jupiter Feretrius being referred to as Capitoline Hill. In fact Parker establishes Jupiter Feretrius as being Palantine Hill, one of the other seven hills of Rome.

Romulus - hill of saturn

The Sabines and their connection to the formation of the Roman Empire

From Encyclopedia Britannica

“Sabine, Latin Sabinus, plural Sabini,  member of an ancient Italic tribe located in the mountainous country east of the Tiber River. They were known for their religious practices and beliefs, and several Roman institutions were said to have derived from them. The story recounted by Plutarch that Romulus, the founder of Rome, invited the Sabines to a feast and then carried off (raped) their women, is legendary. Though there was a considerable Sabine infiltration into Rome, the view that the Sabines conquered the city in the first half of the 5th century bc is improbable; rather, the Romans had many skirmishes with the Sabines before their victory in 449. Nothing is known thereafter until in 290 the Sabines were conquered and granted civitas sine suffragio; in 268 they received full Roman citizenship.”

They Sabines occupied the region of Italy north of their neighboring rival, the Latini’s also known as the Romans.


After a procession of wars that would eventually see the Romans emerge victorious, the Sabines were admitted into the Roman society and given 2nd class citizenship as shown in the following excerpt from The History of Rome, Volume 2.

Sabines 2nd class

However, the “magnanimity” that Rome  had shown the conquered Sabine citizens did not carry over to their leader, Pontius, who was taken prisoner and beheaded, on what was to become Capitoline Hill, for having the gall  of fending off the Romans.  This is the same Pontius that had shown the Roman armies on two different occasions mercy on a fallen foe and spared their lives and released the Roman Consul from capture.

pontius pontius2

The brutal behavior of Rome toward Pontius indicates two things: Rome was the aggressor in the conflict with the Sabines; the foreshadowing of the evil nature in which the Romans deal with their fallen enemies in which they’re the aggressors from the on start of conflict.

The martyr Speratus

To add credence to this notion of Roman viciousness towards anyone that is deemed a threat to their authority, consider the case of the Scillitan Martyr Speratus, who, along with his companions, were beheaded at the order of the proconsul, Saturninus,  for refusing to swear by the genius of Rome and the Emperor. From the book The Ante-Nicene Fathers:


Also from the book: Martyrologia; or, Records of religious persecution




The Tarpeain Rock

To go back further in Roman history, we have the mythological case of the origins of the Tarpeian Rock and its use as a place of execution by flinging the individual from the heights of what would be later called Capitoline Hill. The Latin phrase: “Arx tarpeia Capitoli proxima” translates to “The Tarpeian Rock is close to the Capitol”. This phrase signifies that the Tarpeian Rock from which a convicted person was hurled to his or her death was close to the Capitol, the symbol of power and greatness.

From History of the Roman people by Charles Seignobos

Tarpeain rock7

From A Commentary, Mythological, Historical, and Geographical on Pope’s Homer

Tarpeain rock1

Please note the connections to Saturn.

The Tarpeain Rock was used for executing State political prisoners as mentioned in the book: The History of Herodotus, Volume 3


From The History of Rome by Oliver Goldsmith

Tarpeain rock2

Tarpeain rock3

Tarpeain rock4

An illustration of the Tarpeain Rock


Not only were “Enemies of the State” thrown an estimated 80 feet to their deaths, but also children deemed as “unfit to live”. Perhaps the Romans were the Nazi Eugenicists of their day. But of course the modern Eugenicists movement, which inspired the Nazi’s, takes it roots from Francis Galton and Charles Darwin and their rubbish known as the theory of evolution.

From Mental diseases; a public health problem

Tarpeain rock5

From The Journal of Mental Science, Volume 22

Tarpeain rock6

When we retrospectively look at this sordid behavior, why would anyone who knows this history want to refer to a new nation’s center of government back to an area known for such brutal calamity. Wasn’t the founding of the United States supposed to be the departure from such behavior, at least according to the history books and political mouthpieces that espouse the idyllic virtues of the elevation of man over the brutality of psychotic bullies masquerading as governments?

The Founding Fathers were purportedly men of higher education and were probably taught Roman history or exposed to the Roman Classics. Was Thomas Jefferson aware of the dark side of Capitoline Hill, namely the sinister use of the Tarpeian Rock, when he named our center of government after the Roman system? According to the book, Letters of Thomas Jefferson Concerning Philology and the Classics, Volume 137 , Thomas Jefferson was educated at an early age in the language of Latin as well as being able to read Italian.


Also, according to Thomas Jefferson’s Recommended Reading, Jefferson includes a list of classical writers of Roman antiquity in which many of them write of the Tarpeian Rock. Here is a list linked to a Google Book search for the classical writers on Jefferson’s recommendation list, with author name and Tarpeian Rock as the search term.

  1. Herodutus
  2. Sallust
  3. Livy
  4. Suetonius
  5. Tacitus
  6. Cicero
  7. Seneca
  8. Lucretius
  9. Horace

All of these writers make reference to the Tarpeian Rock and if Jefferson was as versed in the classics that the reading list and biographies suggest, then Jefferson was surely aware of the connections of the Tarpeian Rock and Capitoline Hill.

Jefferson acknowledges reading Cicero to a letter to John Adams 1819


The question needs to be asked again, why would Jefferson name the center of new government after the barbarism of the Roman government? Of course the answer isn’t obvious, but one thing is for sure and that is there is more darkness to come in the historical look at the roots of “Capitol Hill”.

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Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss – part2

Thomas Jefferson and the Capitoline Hill link to Rome

So what is it meant by the phrase “meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss”, as it relates to this series?

Could it perhaps be the military might that the United States currently has as compared to the Rome Empire during its peak?

What about the parallels of the politics of the United States versus the Roman Empire, albeit mostly during its decline. These bullet points were taken from an article in Salon

  1. Staggering Increase in the Cost of Elections, with Dubious Campaign Funding Sources
  2. Politics as the Road to Personal Wealth
  3. Continuous War: A national state of security arises, distracting attention from domestic challenges with foreign wars
  4. Foreign Powers Lavish Money/Attention on the Republic’s Leaders
  5. Profits Made Overseas Shape the Republic’s Internal Policies
  6. Collapse of the Middle Class
  7. Gerrymandering
  8. Loss of the Spirit of Compromise

If we compare these current aspects of the dysfunction of our political system, could the United States be the new boss, same as the old boss of Roman Empire? Is so, it’s foretelling of the path in which we may find the United States Empire trending to.

There is also evidence that indicates the founding fathers had admiration for the Roman Empire. During the formative stages of  Washington D.C., the founding father’s adopted the term “Senate” as part of our system of government. Another reflection of the father’s admiration of Rome stems from their modeling of the architecture of government buildings that was patterned after the classical architecture of the government buildings of Rome.

Thomas Jefferson went as far as to name Capitol Hill after Capitoline Hill in Rome, if you take any credence to the account by Fergus Bordewich, in his book entitled Washington, I quote:

“On the original plan, L’Enfant had written ‘Congress House’ where he placed the national legislature, on Jenkins Hill. Jefferson crossed out those two words, and wrote ‘Capitol’ instead. Taken for granted today, Jefferson’s innovative name self-consciously invoked the famous temple of Jupiter Optimus Maximus on the Capitoline Hill, in ancient Rome , and by extension claimed for the infant United States the hoary mantle of the Roman Republic, with its political freedoms and precedent of popular government .The home of Congress was to be a kind of national temple to the secular religion of democracy, a physical counterpart to the Constitution, a civics lesson in stone as it were. Where others saw a work site, Jefferson saw a moral landscape, though one in which the monstros­ity of
slavery did not really count, of course. Steeped in the classics, he believed with an almost
religious passion in the transformative power of colonnades, domes, and marble porticoes to ennoble the human spirit and sharpen the intellect, even urging the commissioners to replicate the dimensions of ancient Roman  brick-twenty-two inches long, eleven
inches wide, and two inches thick-in the Capitol’s construction.”

A personal commentary:

Doesn’t this sound just grand? Especially the parts about the political freedoms, and moral landscape, and that slavery did not really count. If this were true, Jefferson didn’t know diddly-poo about what a ceste pool the Roman Republic was with its debauchery and corruption. Add on top of this the fact that Jefferson was a known slave owner, not just a handful, but in the hundreds. In fact, Jefferson was such a great guy of moral character and compassion that he sired an offspring with one, Sally Hemings. Of course the protectors of the Jefferson mythos deny this claim. However, thanks to DNA testing there’s  a genetic link between the Jefferson and Hemings descendants. If Jefferson and Hemings where alive today, perhaps they would be on the Maury Show, where Sally would be telling Maury Povich the sordid details of their relationship and that she Just wants Tom to be a man and help out with the baby, but he won’t, so that’s were the DNA test comes in. The crowd boos at Tom and yells at him to be “the baby daddy!”

Does this sound like a guy who should come off  a preaching any kind of moral code in relation to government? I don’t think so. But this authors fluffy prose illustrates the deification that gets rammed down our throats in the form of historical propaganda and most people swallow this hook line and sinker.

What about the Capitoline Hill in Rome?

According to Familiar allusions: a hand-book of miscellaneous information :

Capitoline Hill. [Lat. Mons Capitolinus.] One of the original seven hills of ancient Rome, immediately contiguous to the Forum, and still bearing the same name. The Church of Ara Coeli is supposed to mark the site of the Temple of Jupiter Capitolinus, which formerly stood upon the summit. There is a depression called the Intermontium, upon the top of the hill, forming two heights, upon the summit of one of which the Temple of Jupiter Capitolinus is thought to have stood, and upon the summit of the other the Arx Capitolii.
Upon the latter mount is placed the temple which Romulus is said to have built and to have dedicated to Jupiter Feretrius. The hill was originally called Mons Saturnius, and afterwards (or certainly the whole of one side of it) Mons Tarpeia, from her who, during the war with the Sabines, longing for the golden bracelets of the enemy, and allured by the
promise of receiving that which they wore upon their arms, trencherously opened the fortress to the Sabines, and was rewarded by being crushed by the shields which they  threw upon her in passing. It lastly received the name of Mons Capitolinus (or Capitolium), because in digging the foundations for the Temple 0f Jupiter (Capitolinus) a bloody human head was found, which the augurs declared to be an omen that Rome was destined to become the head of Italy. The famous Tarpeian Rock was also upon this side of the Intermentium, though its exact situation is not definitely determined. See

Did Jefferson or the other Fathers who had a part in the creation of Washington D.C. know about the Bloody Head in their idyllic posturing of Rome? Probably not. In fact, according to the book  United States Congressional serial set:

Capitol comes from caput, the head, and the Capitoline Hill, the smallest of the seven hills of Rome, was at the same time a very conspicuous landmark in the city. Other cities and heads of government have since these days erected capitols, and in America, both north and south, the Republics have adopted the idea of establishing one special building in which the legislative bodies hold their sessions. 

Below are two visual representations of the Seven Hills of Rome.

capitoline hille - tiber river   C19th_RepublicanCityofRome

Please note that the Tiber River shown in the image on the left was used to rename Goose Creek by Francis Pope, as explained in Part 1.

19th Century British Archeologist, John Henry Parker, had this to say about Capitoline Hill in his book The Archaeology of Rome: Plates

That the Hill of Saturn was occupied by the Sabines at the time that the Romans fortified the Palatine, has been shewn, and that it was called the Capitoline Hill after the two hills were united into one city and enclosed in one wall, as Dionysius tells us, because the
great building to contain the Public Offices for the united City was built upon it but as this is not yet generally admitted, and is still a point of dispute, a few more authorities for it may here be introduced with advantage.

However, shortly after he makes that statement, Parker states this:

In the Mirabilia Urbis Romae, the Hill of Saturn is said to be now called CAPITOLIUM, because the Senators assembled there to deliberate. In the Graphia Aurea Urbis Romae, it is said that the Capitol was the head of the world, where the Consuls and the Senators deliberated on its government.

In The Forum Romanorum, also by John Henry Parker, he states this about Capitoline Hill:

Mons Saturnius, post Tarpejus, demum Capitolinus, aliter Capitolium, ubi Deorun omnium simulacra celebrantur. The hill of Saturn, or Capitoline Hill, is fully described in Part I. of this work, Second Edition, with Plans and Photo-engravings.

He states furthermore:

temple of saturn 1874             temple of saturn

Perhaps we can draw the conclusion that the architects of Washington D.C. leaned heavily on the Roman culture to pattern our system of government. Was this simply paying homage to an ideal or was there something more nefarious involved?

What’s with all the talk of Saturn and Jupiter and ancient Rome and what does this have to do with the government of our country? Well, when you investigate what Saturn means in particular you’ll see the connection, but that’s for an upcoming part.

After reading the preceding points, one can immediately draw the conclusion that there are many parallels with Rome in the political and military realms, and with the capitol city architecture. One can also read the works by The Informer and James Montgomery to see the hidden connection that the remnants of the Roman Empire has on the United States today.

But what about the spiritual? Do we emulate Rome in the spiritual sense? The key to that is Saturn.

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Meet the new Boss, same as the old Boss – part1

I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around me
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I’ll get on my knees and pray
We don’t get fooled again
Don’t get fooled again
No, no!

instrumental interlude

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

Wont’ Get Fooled Again, the Who (1971), Pete Townshend

Part 1  – The “Pope” of “Rome” on the “Tiber”

Once, when I was listening to a series of presentations by Jordan Maxwell, he mentioned that the current plot of land that Washington D.C. sits on was once referred to as Rome. He didn’t elaborate about the details of this, but he said something to the effect, “someone better start doing their homework”. As with most of his material, Maxwell blends and weaves things that don’t seem to have a common thread but with further investigation they eventually come together to expose a theme. Intrigued by that statement, I decided to dig into the statement and find out what he was talking about, and this series entitled Meet the new Boss, Same as the old Boss, is the result.

The historical origins of the plot of land that became known as Washington D.C. go back to 1663 or 1664, depending on the source, when an Englishman by the name of Francis Pope purchased the plot.

Taken from, the Records of the American Catholic Historical Society of Philadelphia, Volume 23

On 13th May, 1664, the Colonial authorities of Maryland issued to Francis Pope a patent for a tract of land of 400 acres situated on “ Tiber ” Creek which he named
“ Rome.” This tract fell within the lines of the present City of Washington. The Capitol is situated on or near it. Mr. Pope evidently had a desire to be the “ Pope ” of
“ Rome ” on the “ Tiber.”

According to numerous accounts, Mr. Pope was quite a quirky fellow to the extent that he actually thought himself as the pope of the land. Perhaps Pope’s proclivities were a  foreshadowing of the political machinations that will become synonymous involving that plot of land. The following is taken from Records of the American Catholic Historical Society of Philadelphia Volume XXII

“ Francis Pope, the patentee of 1663, was quite a character in the early days of the Province. Being named Pope he thought fit in a humorous vein to call his farm
Rome and the little stream that ran through it Tiber.”

In another account of Mr. Pope’s either sense of humor or delusional self-importance comes from the Records – Columbia Historical Society of Washington, Volume 23

Previously, this Capitol Hill tract, embracing some four hundred acres, which included much of the site of Washington City, was the property of one Francis Pope, a man of either a rollicking sense of humor or of an immense opinion of his own importance—for being a Pope he termed his domain Rome and rechristened the large Goose creek which flowed through it the Tiber, a name it retained throughout the years, until all visible traces of it were obliterated by the march of progress. 

Indeed, “progress” has erased any visible trace to the presence of Goose Creek or Tiber as the creek was arched over and turned into a sewer. Perhaps more foreshadowing of shitty things to come.

Upon visiting the embryo of Washington in 1803, The poet Tom Moore composed the following:

“In fancy now beneath the twilight gloom
Come let me lead thee o’er this second Rome;
Where tribunes rule and dusky Davi bow
And what was Goose Greek then is Tiber now;
This embryo Capital where fancy sees
Squares in morasses, obelisks in trees. . . .”

Two pieces of the puzzle, Pope & Tiber, as to the origins of the land plot now known as the Washington D.C. have been revealed The third piece is as it relates to the reference of Rome.

Mister Pope was a Englishman of Catholic decent as stated in GLEASON’S PICTORIAL DRAWING-ROOM COMPANION

ln 1663, the present site of Washington city was called Rome, and a small stream running through its centre, the “ Tiber.” The owner was Francis Pope, a Catholic.

also in The Catholic Historical Review it states:

One  hundred  and  twenty-seven  years  before  George Washington selected the site of the Federal City, several pioneer Catholics of Maryland had acquired title to the portion on which that splendid group of buildings,  the United States Capitol, its adjacent offices, and the Library of Congress now stands.  When the Commissioners appointed by President Washington purchased the American  Capitoline Hill, it formed  part of the domain of
Cerne Abbey Manor, and, under this historic Catholic appellation, it is engraved on the earliest maps of the District of Columbia. A mass of evidence is available to prove the Catholic ownership of  this property from  1668,  when  the first  entry concerning it
appeared  in  the  Provincial  Records of  Maryland,  until  1790, when it became part of the National Capital.

Although the quote does not name Francis Pope specifically, it does imply his ownership in the chain of owners of the parcel of land, that eventually became Washington D.C., as being those of Catholic decent including Francis Pope. Assuming that Mr. Pope was a devout Catholic, it would make sense that he may want to pay tribute to the center of his religious beliefs of Catholicism, and name the plot of land Rome.

So what’s the big deal about all this? Is this just mere coincidence or serendipity? Or is there more to the formation and hidden meaning of the founding of our “country” that has been withheld from us.

The next key word to the investigation is from the last quote; Capitoline Hill.

Information Sources

‘Pope’ of ‘Rome’ on the ‘Tiber’ (OCR)

Francis Pope 1 (OCR)

Francis Pope 2 (OCR)

Francis Pope 3 (OCR)

The Catholic Historical Review – Capitoline Hill (OCR)

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Happy Memorial Day!

I want to wish the men and women who served in the armed forces, both past and present, a happy Memorial day. Although the ruling elite uses these people as cannon fodder for their own psychotic agendas, the service men and women, at one time,  had honorable intentions with their service.

With that being said, this brings me to the point of this post and that the lies of History twisted into propaganda. Take for instance the official story of how we won the revolutionary war and thus ultimately leading to the U.S. to become some kind of “Ass Kicking Machine” that no country in their right mind should mess with.

This clip from the movie Stripes sums up that bravado:

I want to correct the Bill Murray character and say that our war record, as if we’re in a competitive war league, should be 9-2 not 10-1. Why? Because there’s enough ample evidence that we really didn’t win the “Big One”, the season opener/the home coming, otherwise called the Revolutionary War.

If you take the time to read the series, The United States is Still a British Colony, and fact check the information, you will see that we have been living in a myth since the inception of the Country/Corporation. The current analogy is that we live in a matrix and although that is true in our technological time, I prefer to say that we have been in Plato’s Cave since the inception of recorded history.

If you want a short snippet of truth, and everyone loves and demands the truth, right? Here it is, historical accounts with a timeline to verify that we really didn’t win the “Big One”.

Read on or download the PDF Winning the Big one

Oct. 19.1781 Cornwallis surrounded on land and sea by Americans and French and surrenders at Yorktown, VA

Large British army surrenders at Yorktown September – October, 1781
A joint French and American force traps a large British army on Virginia’s Yorktown peninsula. Unable to evacuate or receive reinforcements because a French fleet has driven off a British fleet, General Cornwallis is forced to surrender. Although New York City and Charleston, S.C., will remain in British hands until a peace treaty is signed two years later, the war for American independence is essentially over.


Essential this is the official/government recognition of the end of the Revolutionary War.

Time from “Surrender” in days – 0

July 11. 1782 British evacuate Savannah, GA


265 days or 8 months, 22 days  from Cornwallis’ Surrender

Dec. 14,1782 British leave Charleston, SC


421 days or 1 year, 1 month, 25 days  from Cornwallis’ Surrender

Sept. 3, 1783 – The United States and Great Britain sign the Treaty of Paris





684 days or  1 year, 10 months, 15 days  from Cornwallis’ Surrender

Note: The King of England is dictating the terms of the treaty. Compare this to the unconditional surrender of the Japanese (below) in World War II, where the United States and its Allies are dictating to Japan what the terms will be. Does this sound like victory to you? Did the Japanese win World War II and then let the United States dictate to them what the terms would be? No, of course not!




To put it in simple terms, The Revolutionary War peace terms known as the Treaty of Paris 1783, where dictated by the King of England and signed by the United States representatives Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, and John Jay. Why wasn’t the treaty signed in the conquered England, but in Paris France? The King was dictating from a position of strength as were the Americans dictating to the Japanese from a position of strength at the conclusion of World War II.

Nov. 25, 1783 – British troops leave New York City


767 days or  2 years, 1 month, 6 days  from Cornwallis’ Surrender and  83 days from the signing of the peace treaty.

It seems rather curious that if we had won this war, for independence, that the British occupiers sure took a long time leaving even after the treaty of peace was signed. So did we really win? Or did the Founding Fathers cut a truce to save their asses from annihilation, thus screwing over the Continental Soldiers? Pay attention to the British occupation of New York AFTER the treaty was signed, 83 days from the signing of the peace treaty, for the British to leave their last stronghold. It appears that the King withdrew his forces only after he was assured that he would get what HE wanted from the treaty. Now you tell me, who negotiated that treaty from a position of strength?

So on this Memorial Day, I pay tribute to the original Freedom Fighters, the Continental Soldiers, with the only thing I can give them – the Truth.

Read the entire series, The United States is Still a British Colony, here:









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April 15th, a day of infany


The following post is for educational purposes only. It is not to be construed as legal advice.

With the recent event of the bombing at the Boston Marathon on April 15th, it clicked something in me that rang of a sinister synchronicity, and that is a shared dated for tragic events that have shaken people to their core.

There are now three events that will have an anniversary on the 15th of April:

  1. The sinking of the RMS Titanic, a British passenger liner that sank in the North Atlantic Ocean on 15 April 1912
  2. The bombing at the Boston Marathon on 15 April 2013
  3. The typical due date for filing income taxes, April 15th. Unless the 15th falls on a day when the postal service can’t time stamp the mail.

Of course the first two events are a tragic loss of life, one being a mistake of human error, and the other being a planning of human terror. The third is a combination of terror and error and can have devastating effects on their economic lives and personal freedoms.

You may ask, how can the third be a combination of terror and error?

First, the common perception is that if you don’t file an income tax return, you will be subject fines and possible imprisonment. Take the case of Eddie Kahn for example.  Mr. Kahn was charged, with actor Wesley Snipes and another party,with one count of conspiracy to defraud the United States under18 U.S.C. § 371,and one count of making or aiding and abetting the making of a false and fraudulent claim for payment against the United States, under 18 U.S.C. § 287 and18 U.S.C. § 2.

When Mr. Kahn was living in the country of Panama, a country without an extradition treaty with the United States, the FBI kidnapped him and brought him back to the U.S. to face trial, before charges were ever brought before this action. This type action proves that Habeas Corpus, ensuring that a prisoner can be released from unlawful detention, is null a void in the current state of government.

Below is an interview between Vyzygoth and Eddie Kahn disclosing the details of his kidnapping and imprisonment to challenging the Internal Revenue Service.

Second, there is a position that the filing of taxes is only mandatory for American citizens and that people volunteer by error.

This leads to the questions:

  1. Are you really a United States citizen?
  2. What is the United States?

The second question, What is the United States?, is partly addressed in the audio at:

The first question is addressed here and below by the Informer:


No one has ever been a US citizen BY LAW of STATUTE.

But  when  they  register  to  vote  they  are, AND,  by  Presumption ONLY on the  part of  the  corporation. All courts are private as stated in my Which One Are You book, published 20 years ago, on page 119.  All agencies are Private corporations.   All law is based on Presumption.  I  am  giving  this  to  you  as  I  speak.  This was not put on atgpress.  This is now November 10th 2011.  What do I mean by Presumption?  The law of contracts is by presumption and the corporations use it all the time .Who are these corporations?  The UNITED STATES and all 50 STATES.  Why do they all appear in caps?  Because, artificial corporations have to use all caps in their name. Check out your STATES Secretary of STATE’S UCC Section. When corporations are registered to do business, all have to have their names in capital letters.  That is why they have tagged you a US Citizen. By presumption on their part, you are their subject, as you are now deemed by them, to be a person, by presumption.

Let’s look at that word Presumption. You, reading this, have no clue what it really means. Now look that word up in Webster’s 1828 dictionary even though I put it here.  I could be lying to you just like the corporation UNITED STATES does

PRESUMPTION 1828 Definition in Webster’s

PRESUMP’TION, n. [L. proesumption.]

1. Supposition of the truth or real existence of something without direct or positive proof of the fact, but grounded on circumstantial or probable evidence which entitles it to belief. Presumption in law is of three sorts, violent or strong, probable, and light.

WHAT is the very first word defining PRESUMPTION?  So look that up.  I am teaching you how a professional researcher looks at things. You have to, to get what I got in 1998.  So we go back to Webster’s;

SUPPOSITION 1828 Definition in Webster’s

SUPPOSI’TION, n. The act of laying down, imagining or admitting as true or existing, what is known not to be true, or what is not proved. How many times has IRS used this PRESUMPTION AND SUPPOSITION in letters to you or the court used it on you?

1. The position of something known not to be true or not proved; hypothesis.

This is only an infallibility upon supposition that if a thing be true, it is impossible to be false.

2. Imagination; belief without full evidence.

1913 Definition Supposition (supposition)

n.         (?)


[F. supposition, L. suppositio a placing under, a substitution, fr. supponere, suppositium, to put under, to substitute. The word has the meaning corresponding to suppose. See Sub-, and Position.]

The act of supposing, laying down, imagining, or considering as true or existing, what is known not to be true, or what is not proved.  Let’s suppose john doe is a taxpayer when he is not.  Let’s suppose John Doe is a drug user.  DO YOU SEE HOW PRESUMPTION WORKS WITH SUPPOSITION, that which is supposed; hypothesis; conjecture; surmise; opinion or belief without sufficient evidence.

This is only an infallibility upon supposition “that if a thing be true, it is impossible to be false”. Reverend Dr. John Tillotson, late Lord Bishop of Canterbury (1630-1694).

So how can you break the Presumption YOU are NOT a US Citizen turned PERSON, INDIVIDUAL in TAX LAW, The ARTIFICIAL ENTITY? BY doing something constructive for once in your life instead if griping all the time?  You want to be Free?  Then YOU are the only one able to do it. I can’t, an attorney won’t if they could. Your best friend can’t, only you can. How?  By simply going back a couple of hundred years, not 20, 50, or 100 years.  Back to the time when these commercial corporations of STATES and UNITED STATES were formed.  So we find a statute at large or a case using the statute at large.  FOLKS this is not jumping out and saying HERE I AM.  Freedom is never Free, when you have corporate criminals claiming by PRESUMPTION, THEY OWN YOU.  YOU ARE A PERSON and the corporation statute says    ALL PERSONS LIABLE, AND BY PRESUMPTION YOU ARE A PERSON AS A UNITED STATES citizen.

Well how can you prove you are not a US citizen?  Pretty hard is it not? Has anyone ever beat the PRESUMPTION, as I have in 1998, that you really have evidence of that? WELL LET’S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

The Statute at large to become a US citizen is The act of Congress of April 14, 1802, (2 Stat. 153, c. 28, § 1; Rev. St. § 2165,.  YOU MEAN YOU NEVER WENT BACK THAT FAR?  WHY?  DON”T YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THEY DID to SCREW YOU ROYALLY OUT OF YOUR FREEDOMS FOR LIFE.

THAT ACT SAYS, and PAY ATTENTION; provides that “an alien may be admitted to become a citizen of the United States in the following manner, and not otherwise.”  DO YOU understand what NOT OTHERWISE MEANS?  OF COURSE YOU DON”T. 4th grade mentality can’t understand.  This is what the corporation’s education system has done to every PERSON in AMERICA.

YOU ARE A PERSON because you;

1) Pay taxes, don’t you?

2) You have a Drivers License, right?

3) VOTE right?

4) Have a birth certificate?

5) Do everything the corporation tells you right?

WRONG, THESE DO NOT MAKE YOU A SUBJECT. Well I found a case that will knock these preconceived ideas for a loop that if not heeded will keep you a subject of the corporation for the rest of your life and your kids and their kid’s lives.

The case is an 1893 called CITY OF MINNEAPOLIS v. REUM. (Circuit Court of Appeals, Eighth Circuit. May 29, 1893.)   NOW I SAID PAY ATTENTION.  TO WHAT? OF COURSE DUMMY THE RED WORDS “AND NOT OTHERWISE”.  JUST because you voted DOES NOT  MEAN YOU ARE A US CITIZEN OR GOT ANY LATCHES, FILING TAX FORMS, GETTING LICENSES, ETC., ETC, BIRTH CERTIFICATES ARE ALL IN THE CATEGORY OF “AND NOT OTHERWISE” See you have to pay attention.  The case where Mr Reum actually voted was not germane, said the court.  Even though he voted did NOT make him a citizen.  Mr Reum went back and forth I am, I ain’t, so many times was why the court ruled against him.  He had not signed his self away from his king and was not entitled to be a NATURALIZED US citizen.  Sure, he registered to vote and did vote   So the court said the Statute stated you had to do three things to become a US citizen. HAVE YOU DONE ANY after reading what the court said, the statute at large said? I Now quote the court and I know you will not pay attention so I will put in red what you will gloss over and never give it a thought.

The process was clearly stated as conclusions of law by the Court.  The Court went on to state three factors whereby YOU needed to comply to become a U.S. Citizen and “NOT OTHERWISE”. They are, quoting the court;

  1. FIRST. He shall, two Years at least prior to his admission, declare before a proper court his intention to become a citizen of the United States, (Mr Reum did this) and to renounce his allegiance to the potentate or sovereignty of which he may be at the time a citizen or subject. ( Mr.  Reum did NOT do this)
  2. SECOND. He shall, at the time of his application to be admitted, declare, on oath, before some one of the courts above specified, that he will support the Constitution of the United States, and that he absolutely and entirely renounces and abjures all allegiance and fidelity to every foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty; and particularly, by name, to the prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of which he was before a citizen or subject, which proceedings shall be recorded by the clerk of the court.
  3. THIRD. It shall be made to appear to the satisfaction of the court admitting such alien that he has resided within the United States five years at least, and within the state or territory where such court is at the time held one year at least and that during that time he has behaved as a MAN of a good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the same; but the oath of the applicant shall in no case be allowed to prove his residence.”   Emphasis mine Note: They said “MAN” not person as todays corporate R.I.C.O. statues do not mention MAN.

  This statute was only amended once. By the act of May 26, 1824, (4: star. 69, c. 186, § 1; Rev. St. § 2167,) it removed the two year limit that (2 Stat. 153, c. 28, § 1; Rev. St. § 2165 provided.  The TERM of their law for Man is, NONRESIDENT ALIEN.  This is correct, but they used this term knowing that everyone would say “I am not an Alien”, thereby negating the very thing that would make them free.

This maxim of law that applies is;”expressio unius est exclusio alterius.”, converted to English meaning “the express mention of one thing excludes all others”. Are all statutes either comprising man or person? MAN is devoid of Statute.  Non resident alien, A.K.A. MAN, is mentioned and excluded in statute because he is the TERM non resident Alien. Meaning Not resident in any contract, therefore Alien to the Constitution, policy regulations etc., just as Whiting, The solicitor general  stated in 1864 “An alien owes no allegiance or obedience to our government, or to our constitution, laws, or proclamations. . A citizen subject is bound to obey them all. In refusing such obedience, he is guilty of crime against his country, and finds in the law of nations no justification for disobedience. An alien, being under no such obligation, is justified in refusing such obedience. Over an alien enemy, our government can make no constitution, law, or proclamation of obligatory force, because our laws bind only our own subjects, and have no extra-territorial jurisdiction over citizens who are subjects of this government, even if they have so far repudiated their duties as to become enemies, our constitution, statutes, and proclamations are the supreme law of the land. . The fact that their enforcement is resisted does not make them void. It is not in the power of armed subjects of the Union to repeal or legally nullify our constitution, laws, or other governmental acts.”

SOURCE: The Legal Classics Library War Powers under The Constitution of the United States 1864 tenth Ed Entered by Act of Congress, in the Clerk’s Office of the District Court of the District of Massachusetts Special Edition 1997.

REMEMBER WE WERE SUBJECTS BEFORE THE 1776 WAR WE LOST and became citizen SUBJECTS AFTER the 1783 peace treaty where the King  Dictated to the United States exactly what he wanted, thereby leaving his subjects to become his  subjects now known as Citizens of The Vatican’s corporations.  Do not forget that treaty of April 21, 1214 where the King turned his entire Kingdom and SUBJECTS over to the Pope/Vatican Corporation. You are now under Ecclesiastical law of the Vatican since 1787.  The books I have showing the Vatican rules every aspect of your movements and daily lives.  HE, the Pope, created the IRS in 1861 and you never knew it. How do you think I got free in 1998 from all taxes state or US or any other income tax?  AND the SSN (Social Security Number) is your enemy ID to deal in banking. It was not for social security. The two corporate cases settled by the corporate Supreme Court came right out in 1935 and said there never was Social Security.  It was all a fraud and it was admitted in 1953 of which I have that document that I posted two years before ATGPRESS was shut down by powers you never knew existed.

Justice Field dissenting stated in the Erie Railway case of 1892.  I paraphrase to keep this short.”The government thus lays a tax, through the instrumentality of the company, upon the income of a non-resident alien over whom it cannot justly exercise any control, nor upon whom it can justly lay any burden.  The power of the United States to tax is limited to PERSONS, property, and business within their jurisdiction, as much as that of the State is limited to the same subjects within its jurisdiction.”  United States v. Erie Railway Company, 106 US 327.

This Court   you just might be in, has to produce to YOU, the Three Facts of evidence, stated by the Court above:

1)      That YOU absolutely and entirely renounced and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to GOD our creator.

2)      And had given YOUR intentions to the court to become a U.S.  Citizen / SUBJECT of a corporate nature in writing.   There is no other provision of the acts of congress under which YOU could have been naturalized.  The Court did State” AND NOT OTHERWISE.”

3)      And since the statute at large, Not Code says it’s recorded in fact two.

Either the court has to provide it or you win hands down when the plaintiff cannot produce this fact evidence to you and the court.  The Court is the only one that has it not the R.I.C.O. agent coming after you. Why would he have it if all they work from is PRESUMPTION?   The court has the record when you became A US citizen as it was “recorded”. That destroys their PRESUMPTION YOU ARE NOT A PERSON,   US OR STATE citizen, Taxpayer, or that you are the all capital letter, artificial entity.  It then throws the PRESUMPTION BACK AT them.

Remember the phrase; see you did not pay attention, to the last sentence in #1 of SUPPOSITION. This is only an infallibility upon supposition that if a thing be true, it is impossible to be false.  This is what kills them You made them prove YOU are a MAN a NONRESIDENT NOT IN CONTRACT, therefore the Alien. So being the supposition is false on you being a US citizen by PRESUMPTION, the reverse is true that you are an alien, MAN and NOT a PERSON, who James Madison wrote about in his federalist paper 42 and paper 43, The Free White Inhabitant (Alien) man.   I wrote extensively on this in my books and free stuff on atgpress for 10 years at least.  One was TERMS not WORDS, explaining they make up their own definitions.

This last part of the case in my book, Which One are You, says a lot;

Judge Leavy then went on to quote Assessors v. Osborne, 9 Wall. 76 U.S. 567 at 574,

`District Courts are courts of special jurisdiction, and therefore, they cannot take jurisdiction of any case, either civil or criminal, where they are not authorized to do so by an Act of Congress’,–he said it is– “a leading case, and has not been distinguished, modified or over-ruled.” emphasis his.

In 1988 Congress eliminated the appellate jurisdiction of the Supreme Court to review decisions on appeal from State Courts and decisions of the United States court of appeals.  Does this sound like a Republican Government under the separation of Powers doctrine, or a commissioner form of corporate government (democracy), operating through corporate administrative agencies and commercial tribunals (corporation) COURTS of “ special jurisdiction.”   I know, as I was the first case from a state case on appeal. That was denied.


November 10, 2011

Additional Resources

An alien, being under no such obligation

United States v. Erie Railroad 1882 (Pg. 5)

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The United States is Still a British Colony (Chapter 1)

The Following is the first chapter of an online book by James Montgomery entitled, The United States is Still a British Colony. Mister Montgomery takes on the unenviable task of informing the reader that what they thought was the American image of wrestling their freedom from a autocrat, was indeed a mirage pulled off by the hidden partnership of the men lionized as the “Founding Fathers”, the king of England, and a hidden 3rd party. The pertinent facts are verifiable and once they’re put together paint a completely different picture of what really happened and helps explain why things, from an American perspective, are going down the toilet.

Warning: This is a lengthy read, but if you want to put in the time to find the answers, then the investment is worth it as opposed to watching the inane schlock on CNN, FOX, or any other of the purported  authorities of fact.


If you’re not into reading there is an audio posting on YouTube read by Gordon Comstock of The United States is Still a British Colony (Chapter 1). Either way, this is your first step in identifying the matrix in which you live in.

Additional Documentation

1783 Treaty of Paris

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